Debate on David Moyes and Manchester United | RTÉ Soccer
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He signed stupid players that changed nothing. Van persie is just saying as
it is, moyes is inept with tactics and one dimensional.
He moved into the job July 1. How much time does he need to sign players.
He got one (the wrong one) from his former team.
The best synopsis I’ve heard yet on #MUFC and David Moyes from Richie
Sadlier from Irish Television – #RTE . Common sense and well thought out.
“What is David Moyes’s stamp”
United’s problem started when they employed a manager that has never won
anything. No top European club would ever do anything other than go for a
proven top manager. How can Ferdinand and Van Persie possibly respect
someone who is not proven himself. The top Utd players apart from Rooney
(who has been paid a fortune to stay,) know there is no European cup next
year which means there is little chance of top players signing. No matter
what anybody says Moyes inherited a side that finished 2nd in the league
the year before, and were Champions last season. Those are positions in the
league Moyes himself has never even occupied.
EVERYONE ASKS YOURSELVES THIS QUESTION: ” Moyes were still at Everton will
they be challenging for 4th place?”
No you idiot united glory fans its your crappy players van persie and
Rooney vidic etc. He is a great manager if your shirt players had played as
well as they played against Bayern your club would be on top I feel bad for
Moyes united fans(not all) have to be the worst bullying him for the
players underperforming this year to save themseles for the world cup
MANCHESTER UNITED 3-0 OLYMPIAKOS
MANCHESTER UNITED VS BAYERN MUNICH LETS FOOKING AVE IT!
It doesn’t mean that every time a new manager comes in, the entire squad
has to be overhauled to his players. Especially not a championship squad.
That would be ridiculous.
Everton didn’t need a overhaul to maintain their standard. Neither did Man
City, Chelsea or Bayern Munich.
A good manager should be able to manage with any group of players
Rio Ferdinand was particularly bad? He was only on for 5 minutes!
I have to say I agree with the first guy.-His point about there not being
any signs as to how the team is going to get better is so true.-As a United
fan who has watched every game this season.-I can’t tell you that I’ve seen
a style or a way of play that Moyes wants to go with.-Maybe except his
route 1, out-dated tactic of get it wide and get it in.-I understand that
this is not his set of players.-But as a manager it is his job to motivate
these players and get the most out of them.-And this is something he has
not done.-He needs to show he can use what he has in front of him and get
the most he can out of them.-A great manager gets his players to play his
way even if he didn’t pick them.-I think he has lost this team.-And it’s
not worth giving him all this money to buy players.-He hasn’t shown that he
has a plan for this club.-He has only shown that he is completely out of
his depth tactically, organizationally, and as a manager.-And I truly
believe throwing money at him will just be throwing money down a
rabbit-hole and hope to find gold…
“The only way and a club with less talent can win is if they out work the
better club.” – Jimmy Murphy (paraphrased)
Too often this season United was out worked. They lack the needed desire
against lesser clubs. I don’t care what anybody says, but no way Everton
has a better group of players than United.
You don’t get this kind of debate on ITV. Really well done.
Moyes couldn’t motivate a fox in a hen house
I personally believe that United have been poor, simply because the team
are poor, they have old players that aren’t very good (Ferdinand, Carrick,
Evra) they have younger players that aren’t very good (Cleverly, De Gea,
Rafael, Jones, Smalling, Buttner) the aforementioned players simply aren’t
very good, and never really have been, another factor is that Ferguson had
an aura about him, you respected him, no one respects Moyes, simply because
his achievements have been poor at best; bringing in Fellaini was stupid,
and 37 million on Mata was relatively poor piece of buisness, Mata doesn’t
fit in the system if everyone is fit, Mata is a #10, Rooney is a #10 they
cant play both.
I think Moyes should have another season but currently the style of play
MUFC are playing is boring and predictable..
These players won the league, they aren’t that bad.. Swansea (No
disrespect) aren’t great or as good as United player wise.. but they play a
hell of a lot better football than us..
It’s ok giving him time and letting him bring in great players but will he
know what to do with them? will he have them playing in the right system..
Moyes didn’t Bring Januzaj in.
” Van Persie is a pratt ”, class quote from Giles.
Give moyes time. It’s one bad season.
I agree with Sadlier here, there’s a massive risk leaving millions in the
hands of a manager that might not be competent to spend that money wisely.
Let’s not forget David O’Leary, if ever there was someone who
single-handedly dismantled a club, it was that guy. If you give Moyes time,
on evidence, you have to drop expectations. Which is very close to a drop
in standards. No club can afford this kind of decline
Good point about what Moyes brings to the table and whether or not anyone
can actually articulate it seems to be utterly ignored by the older pundits
for the duration of the video.
A really good debate with different views well represented, one of the best
on the internet on the subject.
The funny thing is that as an Everton fan , that opening tirade could have
been about us the past 2 or 3 season . Enjoy ‘ safety’ moyes , Plan A dont
lose . Plan B not included , attacking football sold separately , no
refunds or returns .
That bloke on the right is 100% right why would you trust this idiot with
millions. God knows what the fucking dinosaur on the left is talking about.
A really good point I would’ve brought up was, Liverpool were in a similar
position last year under Rodgers. Now look at them.
Liverpool were shit (they wasn’t champions the year before) but still, they
were really off the pace. Rodgers, with a limited budget needed a few
players, but wasn’t gonna have the time and backing to do that with so
little money and only one January transfer window. Not to mention at this
point they still had players like Joe Cole lingering around (exactly what
Moyes is facing).
So what he does is.. signs Sturridge and Coutinho for £12m and £8m and off
loads the shite. Which results in Liverpool than going on to having Top 4
form for the rest of the season in 2013. And lets not forget, on the 1st of
January 2014, Man United were 2 points off Liverpool.
What Moyes did was buy a player for £40m+ (Mata) who occupies the position
is best player already plays in (Rooney). So what the young lad was saying
about “why should he get the £100m+ in the summer” is spot on, he
shouldn’t. A good manager is one who can show you that he is going to
improve, like Rodgers did. He said “here is what I did when things were
looking bad, give me the money and I will show you something good”. And
he’s about to become a Premier League winning manager!
He signed stupid players that changed nothing. Van persie is just saying as
it is, moyes is inept with tactics and one dimensional.
He moved into the job July 1. How much time does he need to sign players.
He got one (the wrong one) from his former team.
The best synopsis I’ve heard yet on #MUFC and David Moyes from Richie
Sadlier from Irish Television – #RTE . Common sense and well thought out.
“What is David Moyes’s stamp”
United’s problem started when they employed a manager that has never won
anything. No top European club would ever do anything other than go for a
proven top manager. How can Ferdinand and Van Persie possibly respect
someone who is not proven himself. The top Utd players apart from Rooney
(who has been paid a fortune to stay,) know there is no European cup next
year which means there is little chance of top players signing. No matter
what anybody says Moyes inherited a side that finished 2nd in the league
the year before, and were Champions last season. Those are positions in the
league Moyes himself has never even occupied.
EVERYONE ASKS YOURSELVES THIS QUESTION: ” Moyes were still at Everton will
they be challenging for 4th place?”
No you idiot united glory fans its your crappy players van persie and
Rooney vidic etc. He is a great manager if your shirt players had played as
well as they played against Bayern your club would be on top I feel bad for
Moyes united fans(not all) have to be the worst bullying him for the
players underperforming this year to save themseles for the world cup
MANCHESTER UNITED 3-0 OLYMPIAKOS
MANCHESTER UNITED VS BAYERN MUNICH LETS FOOKING AVE IT!
It doesn’t mean that every time a new manager comes in, the entire squad
has to be overhauled to his players. Especially not a championship squad.
That would be ridiculous.
Everton didn’t need a overhaul to maintain their standard. Neither did Man
City, Chelsea or Bayern Munich.
A good manager should be able to manage with any group of players
Rio Ferdinand was particularly bad? He was only on for 5 minutes!
I have to say I agree with the first guy.-His point about there not being
any signs as to how the team is going to get better is so true.-As a United
fan who has watched every game this season.-I can’t tell you that I’ve seen
a style or a way of play that Moyes wants to go with.-Maybe except his
route 1, out-dated tactic of get it wide and get it in.-I understand that
this is not his set of players.-But as a manager it is his job to motivate
these players and get the most out of them.-And this is something he has
not done.-He needs to show he can use what he has in front of him and get
the most he can out of them.-A great manager gets his players to play his
way even if he didn’t pick them.-I think he has lost this team.-And it’s
not worth giving him all this money to buy players.-He hasn’t shown that he
has a plan for this club.-He has only shown that he is completely out of
his depth tactically, organizationally, and as a manager.-And I truly
believe throwing money at him will just be throwing money down a
rabbit-hole and hope to find gold…
“The only way and a club with less talent can win is if they out work the
better club.” – Jimmy Murphy (paraphrased)
Too often this season United was out worked. They lack the needed desire
against lesser clubs. I don’t care what anybody says, but no way Everton
has a better group of players than United.
You don’t get this kind of debate on ITV. Really well done.
Moyes couldn’t motivate a fox in a hen house
I personally believe that United have been poor, simply because the team
are poor, they have old players that aren’t very good (Ferdinand, Carrick,
Evra) they have younger players that aren’t very good (Cleverly, De Gea,
Rafael, Jones, Smalling, Buttner) the aforementioned players simply aren’t
very good, and never really have been, another factor is that Ferguson had
an aura about him, you respected him, no one respects Moyes, simply because
his achievements have been poor at best; bringing in Fellaini was stupid,
and 37 million on Mata was relatively poor piece of buisness, Mata doesn’t
fit in the system if everyone is fit, Mata is a #10, Rooney is a #10 they
cant play both.
I think Moyes should have another season but currently the style of play
MUFC are playing is boring and predictable..
These players won the league, they aren’t that bad.. Swansea (No
disrespect) aren’t great or as good as United player wise.. but they play a
hell of a lot better football than us..
It’s ok giving him time and letting him bring in great players but will he
know what to do with them? will he have them playing in the right system..
Moyes didn’t Bring Januzaj in.
” Van Persie is a pratt ”, class quote from Giles.
Give moyes time. It’s one bad season.
I agree with Sadlier here, there’s a massive risk leaving millions in the
hands of a manager that might not be competent to spend that money wisely.
Let’s not forget David O’Leary, if ever there was someone who
single-handedly dismantled a club, it was that guy. If you give Moyes time,
on evidence, you have to drop expectations. Which is very close to a drop
in standards. No club can afford this kind of decline
Good point about what Moyes brings to the table and whether or not anyone
can actually articulate it seems to be utterly ignored by the older pundits
for the duration of the video.
A really good debate with different views well represented, one of the best
on the internet on the subject.
The funny thing is that as an Everton fan , that opening tirade could have
been about us the past 2 or 3 season . Enjoy ‘ safety’ moyes , Plan A dont
lose . Plan B not included , attacking football sold separately , no
refunds or returns .
That bloke on the right is 100% right why would you trust this idiot with
millions. God knows what the fucking dinosaur on the left is talking about.
A really good point I would’ve brought up was, Liverpool were in a similar
position last year under Rodgers. Now look at them.
Liverpool were shit (they wasn’t champions the year before) but still, they
were really off the pace. Rodgers, with a limited budget needed a few
players, but wasn’t gonna have the time and backing to do that with so
little money and only one January transfer window. Not to mention at this
point they still had players like Joe Cole lingering around (exactly what
Moyes is facing).
So what he does is.. signs Sturridge and Coutinho for £12m and £8m and off
loads the shite. Which results in Liverpool than going on to having Top 4
form for the rest of the season in 2013. And lets not forget, on the 1st of
January 2014, Man United were 2 points off Liverpool.
What Moyes did was buy a player for £40m+ (Mata) who occupies the position
is best player already plays in (Rooney). So what the young lad was saying
about “why should he get the £100m+ in the summer” is spot on, he
shouldn’t. A good manager is one who can show you that he is going to
improve, like Rodgers did. He said “here is what I did when things were
looking bad, give me the money and I will show you something good”. And
he’s about to become a Premier League winning manager!